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rsa0 Member 2004-Jul-1 8:52 pm SBC - do they offer DRY DSL ?I have a question, for a friend of mine, who lives in Detroit: does SBC offers DRY DSL in Detroit area ? |
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gdm MVM 2004-Jul-1 8:55 pm No they don't. Only ones to offer dry ADSL service are covad resellers which is very very recent. SBC may down the road offer dry adsl service. Take a look at the front page and the speakeasy announcement (covad reseller) and you can see user opinions and pricing. Dry ADSL will always be more expensive then line shared ADSL just a FYI. |
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rsa0 Member 2004-Jul-1 8:57 pm Thank you, I will check right now ! |
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| 93388818 (banned) | 93388818 (banned) to rsa0 Member 2004-Jul-1 9:46 pm Not Yet! |
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| pmw148 | pmw148 Member 2004-Jul-1 10:34 pm I thought the point of "dry dsl" was to eliminate the cost of a normal POTS line but if this "dry dsl" is gonna be so expensive, what would it have over normal dsl? Seems a bit pointless to pay such and such for dsl from one company when you can get dsl and POTS from another. Honestly, I don't know why people wouldn't want a POTS line. It's always there just in case... |
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gdm MVM 2004-Jul-1 11:01 pm Main reason is a lot of people do not like the ILEC and people won't get DSL since they have to get a POTS line. Most those people just have a cell phone and either wireless or cable internet. Since that's there only choice they will stick to it but with Dry ADSL coming many people would switch to it that for better stability. |
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| tim006 | tim006 to rsa0 Member 2004-Jul-1 11:34 pm I just can't understand why ppl don't want a pots line. I don't want a cell phone at all. I'm not important enough to have to be available 24/7 and a cell phone would just interrupt my working. |
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| louisk Anon 2004-Jul-2 9:29 am But since SBC won't unbundle POTS from DSL, they're keeping you from moving your local phone service to newer local VOIP carriers like Vonage. I mean, you can certainly do it today, but paying for an unused voice line is silly just to keep your data line open. SBC loves it that way of course. SBC wants to hike local rates again in Illinois, supposedly they wanted $9 a line but the ICC is going to cap them to $3.75 or something smaller. The new VOIP carriers are offering much more service for a way lower price, even a flat fee (Vonage is currently offering all the local and long-distance you want for $29.99 a month) SBC just got told in California that they have to offer DSL separate from voice so maybe there's hope. And by the way not everyone that uses a cellphone is a drug dealer. There's a growing number of young people that never get a voice line at all, they're going totally cellular. The rate plans are more affordable and no more "this is my home # this is my office # this is my cell#". With the number portability rules in place you can keep your phone number forever. |
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Hall to rsa0 MVM 2004-Jul-2 9:34 am Isn't "dry DSL" just SDSL ?? Well, I suppose you don't want the SLAs that come with SDSL... and therefore higher cost... |
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| 93388818 (banned) | 93388818 (banned) to rsa0 Member 2004-Jul-2 10:35 am Nope. "Dry loop" ADSL is not SDSL. |
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| keason  ·Comcast Business ·T-Mobile | keason to rsa0 Premium Member 2004-Jul-2 12:18 pm Re: SBC Taxes are the problemIt's the taxes and fees which cause the problem. What other industry is taxed at 125%+ ??? No wonder most telecoms are in bankruptcy. I used to think Canadian taxes were bad. **** |
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RadioDoc 2004-Jul-2 12:59 pm said by keason:What other industry is taxed at 125%+ ??? Cigarettes. Gasoline. Liquor. Electricity. Natural Gas. Anything the scumbag politicos think you can't do without. |
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muoviti to louisk Premium Member 2004-Jul-2 1:18 pm Re: SBC - do they offer DRY DSL ?said by louisk:But since SBC won't unbundle POTS from DSL, they're keeping you from moving your local phone service to newer local VOIP carriers like Vonage. I mean, you can certainly do it today, but paying for an unused voice line is silly just to keep your data line open. SBC loves it that way of course. In my opinion, any business that utilizes VOIP, like Vonage, is absolutely insane if they do not have AT LEAST one POTS line as a back-up. Server crash, power outage, virus, internet connectivity, etc could happen at anytime and you would be up a creek. |
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black flag to louisk Member 2004-Jul-2 1:54 pm If SBC wants to survive into the next decade they will have no choice but to offer a high-speed connection without ties to a POTS line. Corona has the right answer: Not yet. |
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RadioDoc to muoviti 2004-Jul-2 2:26 pm said by muoviti:could happen at anytime and you would be up a creek. Not to mention the time-tested, ever-popular "vanished without a trace overnight with the corporate cash". I've though it rather amusing when someone puts their business's voice service on an unregulated carrier no matter who it is. Relying on cellular service is bad enough. Tying it to a VoIP startup with the whole thing riding on a consumer-grade connection like ADSL or cable is insane. |
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